Ma è normale che...

[Fabio]

... anche se chiudo tutte le applicazioni chiudibili (dock compreso), mi scollego da internet, chiudo la porta del frigorifero, spengo lo scaldabagno e mi metto in posizione del loto sopra ai cocci di vetro, a me ci metta tra i 15 e i 20 secondi a spegnersi, mentre voi fate gli sboroni con 4 o giù di lì?

Altrettanto per accendersi e che dopo che si è acceso devo muovere il mouse varie volte per far apparire l'indicatore (o freccia o chiamatela come vi pare)?

[astaldo]

e no mi sa che non è normale

[fragrua]

Credo sia il caso di leggere il LOG della Console.
Sicuramente qualche processo rallenta le due operazioni (avvio/spegnimento).
Anche i FONT corrotti possono causare rallentamenti.

[Fabio]

Mi scriveresti o indirizzeresti a un link su come fare?

Grazie.

[Castore]

A me ogni tanto non si chiude proprio.
Quando non ha problemi però si spegne in 2/3 secondi.
A casa proverò, come mi ha detto fragrua a guardare il log di sistema, dato che ieri ha deciso di non chiudersi ancora una volta (e questa volta non avevo nulla di aperto tranne due finestre del finder).
Saluti

[Fabio]

Ok, ma come si fa?

[Mickie]

Apri Console (Applicazioni -> Utility)
Click su "Resoconti"
Click su "System Log"

[Fabio]

E lo so, per voi è fin troppo ovvio, ma ho il Mac solo dal 31 ottobre scorso...

Non appena torno a casa controllo il log.

Grazie

[mattleega]

Fabius, per spegnere prova a premere ctrl ed espelli contemporaneamente.
Però attaccati forte!

[Fabio]

Mickie: "Resoconti" non lo trovo in "Uitlity".

Matleega: attàccati tu!

[Mickie]

Scusami, devo essermi spiegata malissimo!
Vai in:
- Cartella Applicazioni
- Apri la cartella "Utility"
- Apri l'applicazione "Console"
- qui fai click su "Resoconti" e poi su "System Log"



PS: il mio screenshot è relativo al SO Tiger, non so se il tuo forse è leggermente diverso.
Ciao

PS: se non è "System Log" è "Console Log", uno dei due.

[Fabio]

Ecco qui:

Codice: Seleziona tutto

Dec  3 00:30:01 host23-194-dynamic newsyslog[28922]: logfile turned over
Dec  3 01:08:18 host23-194-dynamic hdiejectd[36040]: running
Dec  3 01:08:36 host23-194-dynamic hdiejectd[36040]: quitCheck: calling exit(0)
Dec  3 02:02:06 host23-194-dynamic [0x0-0x26026].org.mozilla.firefox[280]: Debugger() was called!
Dec  3 02:25:17 host23-194-dynamic pppd[139]: Connection terminated.
Dec  3 02:25:17 host23-194-dynamic configd[15]: network configuration changed.
Dec  3 02:25:17 host23-194-dynamic pppd[139]: PPPoE disconnecting...
Dec  3 02:25:17 host23-194-dynamic pppd[139]: PPPoE disconnected
Dec  3 02:25:17 host23-194-dynamic configd[15]: SCNCController: Disconnecting. (Connection was up for, 25747 seconds).
Dec  3 02:25:17 host23-194-dynamic configd[15]: network configuration changed.
Dec  3 02:25:27 host23-194-dynamic com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[90] ([0x0-0x1e01e].com.apple.TextEdit[211]): Exited: Killed
Dec  3 02:25:27 host23-194-dynamic com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[90] ([0x0-0x24024].com.apple.Preview[244]): Exited: Killed
Dec  3 02:25:27 host23-194-dynamic loginwindow[39]: DEAD_PROCESS: 39 console
Dec  3 02:25:27 host23-194-dynamic loginwindow[39]: CGSShutdownServerConnections: Detaching application from window server
Dec  3 02:25:27 host23-194-dynamic loginwindow[39]: CGSDisplayServerShutdown: Detaching display subsystem from window server
Dec  3 02:25:27 host23-194-dynamic com.apple.loginwindow[39]: Thu Dec  3 02:25:27 host23-194-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it loginwindow[39] <Warning>: CGSShutdownServerConnections: Detaching application from window server
Dec  3 02:25:27 host23-194-dynamic com.apple.loginwindow[39]: Thu Dec  3 02:25:27 host23-194-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it loginwindow[39] <Warning>: CGSDisplayServerShutdown: Detaching display subsystem from window server
Dec  3 02:25:27 host23-194-dynamic ManagedClient[43278]: ManagedClient- must run as root
Dec  3 02:25:27 host23-194-dynamic com.apple.loginwindow[39]: 2009-12-03 02:25:27.877 ManagedClient[43278:903] ManagedClient- must run as root
Dec  3 02:25:29 host23-194-dynamic loginwindow[39]: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
Dec  3 02:25:29 host23-194-dynamic com.apple.loginwindow[39]: Thu Dec  3 02:25:29 host23-194-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it loginwindow[39] <Error>: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
Dec  3 02:25:29 host23-194-dynamic /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow[43279]: Login Window Application Started
Dec  3 02:25:31 host23-194-dynamic loginwindow[43279]: Login Window Started Security Agent
Dec  3 02:25:31 host23-194-dynamic WindowServer[43280]: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
Dec  3 02:25:31 host23-194-dynamic com.apple.WindowServer[43280]: Thu Dec  3 02:25:31 host23-194-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it WindowServer[43280] <Error>: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
Dec  3 02:25:47 iMac configd[15]: setting hostname to "iMac.local"
Dec  3 02:26:17 iMac loginwindow[43279]: Login Window - Returned from Security Agent
Dec  3 02:26:17 iMac shutdown[43301]: halt by _spotlight: 
Dec  3 02:26:17 iMac shutdown[43301]: SHUTDOWN_TIME: 1259803577 318628
Dec  3 02:26:37 iMac mDNSResponder[18]: mDNSResponder mDNSResponder-214 (Oct 16 2009 06:09:30) stopping
Dec  3 02:26:37 iMac SecurityAgent[43290]: CGSShutdownServerConnections: Detaching application from window server
Dec  3 02:26:37 iMac WindowServer[43280]: hidd died. Reestablishing connection.
Dec  3 02:26:37 iMac WindowServer[43280]: bootstrap_look_ip failed: Unknown service name
Dec  3 02:26:37 iMac /usr/sbin/qmasterd[71]: dnssd_clientstub read_all(9) failed 0/28 0 
Dec  3 02:26:37 iMac SecurityAgent[43290]: MIG: server died: CGSReleaseShmem : Cannot release shared memory
Dec  3 02:26:37 iMac SecurityAgent[43290]: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
Dec  3 02:26:37 iMac SecurityAgent[43290]: CGSDisplayServerShutdown: Detaching display subsystem from window server
Dec  3 02:26:37 iMac SecurityAgent[43290]: kCGErrorRangeCheck: On-demand launch of the Window Server is allowed for root user only.
Dec  3 02:26:37 iMac SecurityAgent[43290]: HIToolbox: received notification of WindowServer event port death.
Dec  3 02:26:37 iMac SecurityAgent[43290]: port matched the WindowServer port created in BindCGSToRunLoop
Dec  3 19:54:56 localhost com.apple.launchd[1]: *** launchd[1] has started up. ***
Dec  3 19:55:01 localhost mDNSResponder[18]: mDNSResponder mDNSResponder-214 (Oct 16 2009 06:09:30) starting
Dec  3 19:55:02 localhost configd[15]: BUG in libdispatch: 10C540 - 1678 - 0x9b07
Dec  3 19:55:09 localhost bootlog[47]: BOOT_TIME: 1259866496 0
Dec  3 19:55:12 localhost configd[15]: network configuration changed.
Dec  3 19:55:12 iMac configd[15]: setting hostname to "iMac.local"
Dec  3 19:55:12 iMac com.apple.usbmuxd[30]: usbmuxd-176 built for iTunesNineDot on Sep 24 2009 at 16:11:05, running 32 bit
Dec  3 19:55:13 iMac org.apache.httpd[27]: httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using iMac.local for ServerName
Dec  3 19:55:15 iMac blued[48]: Apple Bluetooth daemon started
Dec  3 19:55:15 iMac /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow[37]: Login Window Application Started
Dec  3 19:55:16 iMac configd[15]: network configuration changed.
Dec  3 19:55:19 iMac com.apple.SystemStarter[31]: Starting Qmaster services
Dec  3 19:55:22 iMac loginwindow[37]: Login Window Started Security Agent
Dec  3 19:55:23 iMac loginwindow[37]: Login Window - Returned from Security Agent
Dec  3 19:55:23 iMac loginwindow[37]: USER_PROCESS: 37 console
Dec  3 19:55:23 iMac com.apple.launchctl.Aqua[89]: launchctl: Please convert the following to launchd: /etc/mach_init_per_user.d/com.adobe.versioncueCS4.monitor.plist
Dec  3 19:55:23 iMac com.apple.launchctl.Aqua[89]: launchctl: Please convert the following to launchd: /etc/mach_init_per_user.d/trial_expired_NTFS.plist
Dec  3 19:55:23 iMac com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[87] (com.apple.ReportCrash): Falling back to default Mach exception handler. Could not find: com.apple.ReportCrash.Self
Dec  3 19:55:26 iMac com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[87] (com.apple.Kerberos.renew.plist[108]): Exited with exit code: 1
Dec  3 19:55:26 iMac com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[87] (0x1001040a0.mach_init.NTFS for Mac OS X): Failed to check-in!
Dec  3 19:55:26 iMac com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[87] ([0x0-0xb00b].com.linotype.FontExplorerX.Autoload[120]): Exited with exit code: 255
Dec  3 19:55:29 iMac WindowServer[60]: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
Dec  3 19:55:29 iMac com.apple.WindowServer[60]: Thu Dec  3 19:55:29 iMac.local WindowServer[60] <Error>: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged.
Dec  3 19:55:29 iMac com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[87] (0x100103dd0.mach_init.VersionCueCS4monitor): Failed to check-in!
Dec  3 19:55:30 iMac OpenTerminal[118]: Initializer-based scripting additions have been deprecated. Please update this addition: "/Library/ScriptingAdditions/Adobe Unit Types.osax"
Dec  3 19:55:30 iMac OpenTerminal[118]: Initializer-based scripting additions have been deprecated. Please update this addition: "/Library/ScriptingAdditions/QXPScriptingAdditions.osax"
Dec  3 19:55:31 iMac _mdnsresponder[126]: sntp options: a=2 v=1 e=0.100 E=5.000 P=2147483647.000
Dec  3 19:55:31 iMac _mdnsresponder[126]:     d=15 c=5 x=0 op=1 l=/var/run/sntp.pid f= time.euro.apple.com
Dec  3 19:55:31 iMac _mdnsresponder[126]: sntp: unable to set up access to NTP server time.euro.apple.com
Dec  3 19:55:41 iMac pppd[129]: pppd 2.4.2 (Apple version 412) started by Fabio, uid 501
Dec  3 19:55:41 iMac pppd[129]: PPPoE connecting to service 'Alice' [access concentrator '']...
Dec  3 19:55:41 iMac pppd[129]: PPPoE connection established.
Dec  3 19:55:41 iMac pppd[129]: Connect: ppp0 <--> socket[34:16]
Dec  3 19:55:42 iMac pppd[129]: PAP authentication succeeded
Dec  3 19:55:42 iMac pppd[129]: local  IP address 79.36.197.9
Dec  3 19:55:42 iMac pppd[129]: remote IP address 80.21.255.161
Dec  3 19:55:42 iMac pppd[129]: primary   DNS address 85.37.17.16
Dec  3 19:55:42 iMac pppd[129]: secondary DNS address 85.38.28.68
Dec  3 19:55:42 iMac configd[15]: network configuration changed.
Dec  3 19:55:42 iMac configd[15]: SCNCController: Connected.
Dec  3 19:55:42 iMac configd[15]: network configuration changed.
Dec  3 19:55:46 iMac ntpd[25]: Cannot find existing interface for address 17.72.255.12
Dec  3 19:55:46 iMac ntpd[25]: configuration of 17.72.255.12 failed
Dec  3 19:55:46 host9-197-dynamic configd[15]: setting hostname to "host9-197-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it"
Dec  3 19:56:41 host9-197-dynamic [0x0-0x14014].org.mozilla.thunderbird[155]: Warning: unrecognized command line flag -psn_0_81940
Dec  3 20:01:26 host9-197-dynamic [0x0-0x15015].org.mozilla.firefox[159]: Debugger() was called!
Dec  3 20:02:32 host9-197-dynamic [0x0-0x15015].org.mozilla.firefox[159]: Debugger() was called!
Dec  3 20:05:26: --- last message repeated 1 time ---
Dec  3 20:05:26 host9-197-dynamic /System/Library/CoreServices/CCacheServer.app/Contents/MacOS/CCacheServer[117]: No valid tickets, timing out
Dec  3 20:08:17 host9-197-dynamic [0x0-0x15015].org.mozilla.firefox[159]: Debugger() was called!
Dec  3 20:29:41: --- last message repeated 2 times ---
Dec  3 20:29:41 host9-197-dynamic [0x0-0x15015].org.mozilla.firefox[159]: Debugger() was called!
Dec  3 20:32:49 host9-197-dynamic [0x0-0x15015].org.mozilla.firefox[159]: Debugger() was called!
Dec  3 20:33:31 host9-197-dynamic [0x0-0x15015].org.mozilla.firefox[159]: Debugger() was called!
Dec  3 20:34:27 host9-197-dynamic loginwindow[37]: DEAD_PROCESS: 37 console
Dec  3 20:34:28 host9-197-dynamic pppd[129]: Connection terminated.
Dec  3 20:34:28 host9-197-dynamic configd[15]: network configuration changed.
Dec  3 20:34:28 host9-197-dynamic pppd[129]: PPPoE disconnecting...
Dec  3 20:34:28 host9-197-dynamic pppd[129]: PPPoE disconnected
Dec  3 20:34:28 host9-197-dynamic configd[15]: network configuration changed.
Dec  3 20:34:28 host9-197-dynamic configd[15]: SCNCController: Disconnecting. (Connection was up for, 2326 seconds).
Dec  3 20:34:28 host9-197-dynamic shutdown[4361]: halt by Fabio: 
Dec  3 20:34:28 host9-197-dynamic shutdown[4361]: SHUTDOWN_TIME: 1259868868 359839
Dec  3 20:34:48 host9-197-dynamic mDNSResponder[18]: mDNSResponder mDNSResponder-214 (Oct 16 2009 06:09:30) stopping
Dec  3 20:34:48 host9-197-dynamic WindowServer[60]: hidd died. Reestablishing connection.
Dec  3 20:34:48 host9-197-dynamic WindowServer[60]: bootstrap_look_ip failed: Unknown service name
Dec  3 20:34:48 host9-197-dynamic /usr/sbin/qmasterd[69]: dnssd_clientstub read_all(9) failed 0/28 0 
Dec  3 20:35:39 localhost com.apple.launchd[1]: *** launchd[1] has started up. ***
Dec  3 20:35:44 localhost mDNSResponder[18]: mDNSResponder mDNSResponder-214 (Oct 16 2009 06:09:30) starting
Dec  3 20:35:52 localhost bootlog[47]: BOOT_TIME: 1259868939 0
Dec  3 20:35:55 localhost configd[15]: network configuration changed.
Dec  3 20:35:55 iMac configd[15]: setting hostname to "iMac.local"
Dec  3 20:35:55 iMac com.apple.usbmuxd[30]: usbmuxd-176 built for iTunesNineDot on Sep 24 2009 at 16:11:05, running 32 bit
Dec  3 20:35:56 iMac org.apache.httpd[27]: httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using iMac.local for ServerName
Dec  3 20:35:57 iMac /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow[37]: Login Window Application Started
Dec  3 20:35:57 iMac blued[48]: Apple Bluetooth daemon started
Dec  3 20:35:58 iMac configd[15]: network configuration changed.
Dec  3 20:36:01 iMac com.apple.SystemStarter[31]: Starting Qmaster services
Dec  3 20:36:05 iMac loginwindow[37]: Login Window Started Security Agent
Dec  3 20:36:05 iMac loginwindow[37]: Login Window - Returned from Security Agent
Dec  3 20:36:05 iMac loginwindow[37]: USER_PROCESS: 37 console
Dec  3 20:36:05 iMac com.apple.launchctl.Aqua[89]: launchctl: Please convert the following to launchd: /etc/mach_init_per_user.d/com.adobe.versioncueCS4.monitor.plist
Dec  3 20:36:05 iMac com.apple.launchctl.Aqua[89]: launchctl: Please convert the following to launchd: /etc/mach_init_per_user.d/trial_expired_NTFS.plist
Dec  3 20:36:05 iMac com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[87] (com.apple.ReportCrash): Falling back to default Mach exception handler. Could not find: com.apple.ReportCrash.Self
Dec  3 20:36:07 iMac com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[87] (com.apple.Kerberos.renew.plist[108]): Exited with exit code: 1
Dec  3 20:36:08 iMac com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[87] ([0x0-0xb00b].com.linotype.FontExplorerX.Autoload[121]): Exited with exit code: 255
Dec  3 20:36:08 iMac com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[87] (0x100203da0.mach_init.NTFS for Mac OS X): Failed to check-in!
Dec  3 20:36:09 iMac OpenTerminal[119]: Initializer-based scripting additions have been deprecated. Please update this addition: "/Library/ScriptingAdditions/Adobe Unit Types.osax"
Dec  3 20:36:09 iMac OpenTerminal[119]: Initializer-based scripting additions have been deprecated. Please update this addition: "/Library/ScriptingAdditions/QXPScriptingAdditions.osax"
Dec  3 20:36:09 iMac com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[87] (0x100100c10.mach_init.VersionCueCS4monitor): Failed to check-in!
Dec  3 20:36:13 iMac _mdnsresponder[127]: sntp options: a=2 v=1 e=0.100 E=5.000 P=2147483647.000
Dec  3 20:36:13 iMac _mdnsresponder[127]:     d=15 c=5 x=0 op=1 l=/var/run/sntp.pid f= time.euro.apple.com
Dec  3 20:36:13 iMac _mdnsresponder[127]: sntp: unable to set up access to NTP server time.euro.apple.com
 

[mattleega]

Matleega: attàccati tu!

c...hai capito, intendevo attaccati forte perché si spegne tanto in fretta che ti scaraventa giù dalla sedia